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		<title>By: US panel on religious freedom to visit India &#171; Quick Take &#8211; As It Happens</title>
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		<description>[...] more than 10-20 million Africans were brought as captives &#8211; and sold in the US to be used as forced slave labour. Slave markets and trade in slaves was abolished after many revolutions and revolts by the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ara0062</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like you thread here, but if I may make the comment. Thomas Jefferson DID have a black mistress. The only reason he DIDN&#039;T marry her was it was against the law, but he did provide for ALL of his children in his will...both the white and mixes alike. To inherit their trust, all they had to do was finish college..which they did. So at least, to a degree, I feel that he WAS trying to do right in a time when it was hard to do so. 

I also like the comment that there WERE white slaves before Indian or black slaves. Although they went by the name of indentured servants, they suffered none-the-less. That being said, I don&#039;t disagree with anything being said though.

I myself am from a VERY mixed heritage. To this day, I am confused as to what to mark on the Ethnicity box/LABEL on every single form that is out there. I finally decided to check other and put Native American/White mix. My great grandparents were the red man as you called him from one side and British from the other. My Native American ancestors gave up their land rights due to fear from the government and persecution from others. Because of this, the U.S. government says they must now declare themselves as white, but on today&#039;s ethnicity labels..it says caucasian. Not all white people are from Europe/Eurasia which is what it means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like you thread here, but if I may make the comment. Thomas Jefferson DID have a black mistress. The only reason he DIDN&#8217;T marry her was it was against the law, but he did provide for ALL of his children in his will&#8230;both the white and mixes alike. To inherit their trust, all they had to do was finish college..which they did. So at least, to a degree, I feel that he WAS trying to do right in a time when it was hard to do so. </p>
<p>I also like the comment that there WERE white slaves before Indian or black slaves. Although they went by the name of indentured servants, they suffered none-the-less. That being said, I don&#8217;t disagree with anything being said though.</p>
<p>I myself am from a VERY mixed heritage. To this day, I am confused as to what to mark on the Ethnicity box/LABEL on every single form that is out there. I finally decided to check other and put Native American/White mix. My great grandparents were the red man as you called him from one side and British from the other. My Native American ancestors gave up their land rights due to fear from the government and persecution from others. Because of this, the U.S. government says they must now declare themselves as white, but on today&#8217;s ethnicity labels..it says caucasian. Not all white people are from Europe/Eurasia which is what it means.</p>
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		<title>By: Anuraag Sanghi</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine point, Sir! I agree that this &#039;tarring&#039; of the Black people as brother sellers  is a crude attempt to &#039;white wash&#039; their own sins.

But please do remember, that before Black slavery, there was also White slavery. Maybe lesser in magnitude, but nevertheless there!

Where I come from, we have a concept of &quot;shubh labh&quot; which governs trade. Shubh labh basically means, benign and ethical profits. I would like to go further and say that &#039;dealing&#039; in slaves, whether as a buyer or seller, makes no difference. It is equally abominable.

How is that in India slavery never took root. I am sure that the same Black and Arab traders would have sold slaves to Indians too. Why didn&#039;t Indians buy and sell slaves?

It is not that &quot;Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.&quot; only - (with due apologies to Shakespeare) but with all these slave owning cultures - and their continued defence of slavery!

And thanks for your feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine point, Sir! I agree that this &#8216;tarring&#8217; of the Black people as brother sellers  is a crude attempt to &#8216;white wash&#8217; their own sins.</p>
<p>But please do remember, that before Black slavery, there was also White slavery. Maybe lesser in magnitude, but nevertheless there!</p>
<p>Where I come from, we have a concept of &#8220;shubh labh&#8221; which governs trade. Shubh labh basically means, benign and ethical profits. I would like to go further and say that &#8216;dealing&#8217; in slaves, whether as a buyer or seller, makes no difference. It is equally abominable.</p>
<p>How is that in India slavery never took root. I am sure that the same Black and Arab traders would have sold slaves to Indians too. Why didn&#8217;t Indians buy and sell slaves?</p>
<p>It is not that &#8220;Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.&#8221; only &#8211; (with due apologies to Shakespeare) but with all these slave owning cultures &#8211; and their continued defence of slavery!</p>
<p>And thanks for your feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: lifeisannoying</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well when they say sold their brothers, they probably did not consider the ethnic variations that you have in Africa, it is the most ethnically diverse continent on earth.

 To a 16th century white european of course you may have seen men of all one shade and assumed them to be all the same. but what you could have is   one etnic group selling another, so hardly brothers selling one and other. If another ethnic group lived  on some prime real estate that you wanted simple raid them and voila, you have some wares from those happy white men and the other people are gone.

 if you take that simplistic view you could argue, the troubles in northern ireland were a  un-holy squabble between two groups of the same people, everyone is white and they are all christians the subtle detail being, the history of  ireland and conquest of catholic ireland by protestant british mainlanders and the conflict that that has wrought on the face of a beautiful country.

 or maybe  frequent wars between france and  great britain throughout history, if you want to be simple ascribe as people killing their own brothers (they are both white) history is a lot of fine print, please i love your blog but  don&#039;t be so blind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well when they say sold their brothers, they probably did not consider the ethnic variations that you have in Africa, it is the most ethnically diverse continent on earth.</p>
<p> To a 16th century white european of course you may have seen men of all one shade and assumed them to be all the same. but what you could have is   one etnic group selling another, so hardly brothers selling one and other. If another ethnic group lived  on some prime real estate that you wanted simple raid them and voila, you have some wares from those happy white men and the other people are gone.</p>
<p> if you take that simplistic view you could argue, the troubles in northern ireland were a  un-holy squabble between two groups of the same people, everyone is white and they are all christians the subtle detail being, the history of  ireland and conquest of catholic ireland by protestant british mainlanders and the conflict that that has wrought on the face of a beautiful country.</p>
<p> or maybe  frequent wars between france and  great britain throughout history, if you want to be simple ascribe as people killing their own brothers (they are both white) history is a lot of fine print, please i love your blog but  don&#8217;t be so blind</p>
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