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Why Do We Love Our Invaders So Much?

Posted in British Raj, Desert Bloc, History, India, Indo Pak Relations, Propaganda by Anuraag Sanghi on August 7, 2012

 

Colonial history produces in the minds of many English-speaking Indians, the belief that India has been a rather frequent military loser – even though facts are otherwise.

Colonial history, left largely untouched after Indian Independence, produces it own kinds of stunted minds. A 2ndlook reader responded with a revealing comment.

being a Hindu from east India (Bengal – Assam), believe me I would Any Day prefer the british or east India company, rather than live under nawab’s, muslim league, tikka khans (u know who was tikka khan, maybe you don’t know about the pakistan genocide of east bengali hindus in 70-71).

Ever head of the begali hindu renassiance in the 18-19 centuries (or for that matter the general Hindu reniasance all over india). I am sure u’ll be upset / angry / bitter to learn that it started once the british has booted out the nawbs / mughals

Koenraad Elst, recently wrote a blog-post calling Hindus cowards, questioning if they are all right in all the departments. All this because Hindus were not hounding out Muslims from India – or at least making them second-class citizens, if not putting them in concentration camps.

To make this point, Elst picked up on India’s partition (1947) into India and Pakistan (to later subdivide into Pakistan and Bangla Desh.).

Anglophiles apart, it is an accepted reading of events for the 1940-1947 period when the Partition was formalized, that the British did encourage Jinnah to make strident, aggressive claims for disproportionate authority and veto powers in the soon-to-be independent India – failing which, India must be partitioned.

Some 2ndlookers felt that Elst’s absolution given to the British, for the Partition of India was a trial balloon by vested interests. A logical doubt, as Koenraad Elst’s writing has been suspect – and his ‘scholarship’ distasteful.

It is Elst’s proposition in his post (linked above) – unsupported by any facts, links, citations, references that the British wanted a united India – but it was Muslims led by Jinnah who wanted otherwise.

Curiously, the most significant support for Elst came from some Indians. Some interesting ramifications and reactions to this debate.

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  1. Dr. O. P. Sudrania said, on August 9, 2012 at 4:45 am

    Please allow me to add something interesting of his broad mindedness. This refers to his most loveable comment on Macaulay which his admirers including some of his dalit (so called but certainly pampered by his clan). Please go ahead:

    Caption: “A dubious quotation, a controversial reputation: the merits of Lord Macaulay”

    Top impression before starting his impressive Hindu bash: “Koenraad Elst discovers through a wrong quotation attributed to Lord Macaulay how right the anglicizer of Indian culture was, or at least how right his intentions were, subjectively.” Please peruse the link and his first paragraph is sufficient to enlighten an awakened mind.

    http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/hinduism/macaulay.html

    His subsequent subcaptions are very interesting. The no.1. Macaulay the Terminator. I can’t make out any sense out of it, “What Terminator does he wants him to project?” But his further venomous use of wordings is highly terminating the Elst himself. He is a definitely planted by some powerful institution with a sinister intent to look after this indolent Hindu society by once inciting Hindus while next time inciting Muslims. Anurag’s earlier posting with caption: “Koenraad Elst: Singing Bhajans to British Gods to an Indian Audience or The Game Is Overand ” and compare the link I have provided above. He is anachronistically incorrect, self contradictory starkly, and definitely smacks of his mens rea to keep inflamming the hatred between Hindus and Muslims.

    Unfortunately, Elstellence failed excellently to research which would not have served his Hindu bashing purpose. I have been researching on his quote but was waiting for an opportuned moment. I think that moment has come. Excellence in twisting the historical facts by his regular sweet venomous remarks by first making some loving anti Christian or missionary remarks but with full Handu bashing. This Muslim bashing is a recent posturing perhaps to please the ignorant unsuspecting Hindu Indian audience.

    Lies don’t go too far.

  2. Dr. O. P. Sudrania said, on August 9, 2012 at 4:54 am

    In the passing, the same controversial quote had appeared not just in “Hindu Indian circles” but also in Pakistani Muslim writings, Sri Lankan Singhalese writings, Bangladeshi Islmic writings. I must give credit to Elst for converting all these communities into Hindu fold. Congratulations Hindus and thanks to my friend KE.

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  4. ashoksinghania said, on August 28, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    dear anurrag please come to hyderabad and will worst experienceeven then newyork. imyself have been checked by police though only bfor vehicle atleast twice amonth. or 24 times ayear inspite of havingall proper papers. once traffic constable told memy licence issued in mah is not valid in andhrapradesh. another time at night group of 8policemen at night 110clock told me iam drunkispite ihave never touch it . ihad no option but to shell out 200 bucks. perhaps your are leaving in alice in wonderland.

    • Sridhar said, on August 29, 2012 at 1:25 pm

      so are you singhaniaji!!! Making unverifiable claims like that have no meaning in this debate… You were taken in on the suspicion of being drunk and checked for the same which is very different than suspecting that you might be drunk,then tazing you for some reason and putting you in jail. Hyderbad is still way behind from being a police state unlike New york where people who participate in political rallies are associated to be terrorists!! I have barely seen any such thing happening in Hydreabad or any other city in India for that matter. The only person who seems to be in a wonderland is you….

  5. admin said, on September 6, 2012 at 1:08 pm

  6. Palahalli said, on September 6, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    Interestingly, first you claim the Mughals are not foreign invaders but Islamic rulers from Afghanistan (as if that made any difference to Hindus!) and then in the same breath also accuse “some Hindus” of being in awe of the Mughals & British.

    Now, why is it wrong to be in awe of the Mughals? They were one of us, right?

    • Anuraag Sanghi said, on September 9, 2012 at 3:59 pm
      I am so glad you: –

      1. You have gone through the various posts.
      2. Could find a contradiction.
      3. Good that you seem to think the Mughals as Indians.

      Hint: In case you would like understand this contradiction, look at how Mughals are ordinarily looked at. As invaders. Not the way 2ndlook looks at them.

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